Amiga "classic" pojede dale jako samostatna linie ....

[Petr Krenzelok <Petr.Krenzelok@trz.cz>]

Nerad bych neco predbihal, ale zda se, ze Index, P5 a HP spoji sily a
budou pokracovat ve vyvoji soucasne amigy smerem k PPC.

Mozna cele ty zmatky byly k necemu dobre, jak se zda, spokojen by mohl
byt i Fido :-), protoze HP bude zrejme delat 3D knihovny pro P5 a mozna
nejen to.

Tohle nejsou moc rumors, v podstate se mozna jeste jedna s AInc., ale uz
se o tom zminoval i Mick na ICOA, a taky na c.s.a.m., coz tady
insertuju.
Sorry za flood, ale tohle jsou informace k Amize a celkem zajimave,
takze ...

PS: pri pokusu o interpretaci negativnich stanovisek, ktere se tady
objevovaly jsem byl na ICOA mirne "vyfuckovan", az se me to skoro dotklo
- pry by odeme ocekavali vice, ze jsem jako ill-ended user nebo jak to
rekl Ben.

Takze co hosi, uz vas zacina prechazet vlna pesimismu? Exie?

Bajte,

-pekr-
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> Jason Compton wrote:
> > The November Machine is apparently going to be using an InsideOut-like
> > board with an 040 or 060 on there, and according to Gary Peake who is
> > reasonably close to Amiga Inc, the speed benefit over an existing top 
> > of
> > the line 060 is only "slightly" faster (probably that faster Chip RAM
> > access Index has been touting). So, there's no emulation going on in 
> > the
> > November Machine (although I, too, was under the impression at one 
> > point
> > that that was the case.)
> 
> Well that's understandable since it is stated on www.amiga.com that it
> will work through emulation.
> Regarding the "bridge"-machines: I've been told by Gary Peake that they
> WILL be sold to non-developers [of course, who sets a price tag to $999
> if it's aimed mainly at developers?!] and unlike the currently known
> plans for the Siamese it will NOT have to be run under Windows.

To try and clear a few of these things up in one go.

The development machines (saying OS4 was a mistake as it is just a 
development machine) will be x86 based and will run the OS that is 
destined for the MMC machine.  The OS will be based on either BeOS,
Linux 
or JavaOS - if it wasn't for a late hitch they would have announced it
at 
the show.

The MMC chip runs x86 code in real time, although it appears that it has 
its own instruction set too.  Code developed for the "developer machine" 
will run on the MMC machine, hence when developing new applications 
targeted at the MMC it is essential that the "development machine" is
x86. 
 Also the tools for the new machine are x86 based.

The development machines will have Siamese PCI for Amiga compatibility 
(which is Siamese running on the InsideOut).  Because of the offloading
of 
graphics, sound and I/O to the PC this is expected to give graphic/UI 
applications a performance of around 2x faster than the 68k processor 
fitted because it is using an AGP graphics card controlled by the P2. 
It 
has the normal benefits of Siamese - it supports all graphics cards,
file 
systems, network drives, etc., supported by the host.  The host side of 
Siamese, which currently runs on Win95 & WinNT will run on the new OS 
also.

We are discussing the strengthening of the "Classic Amiga" line with
Amiga 
Inc and they are being very cooperative.  Basically the aim is to give
the 
Classic Amiga its own direction - the new machine is a new machine which 
will have lots of support and help for moving Amiga applications over to 
it.  I can't give any details because they are under discussion but we 
have a framework which seems to have broad support. Because of Amiga
Inc., 
focus on getting the new machine/OS negotiations completed they simply
did 
not have time to put in place plans for the wider market and we (being 
several key companies) are looking to address that.  That future
continues 
to be 68k migrating to PPC.

Regards
Mick Tinker