[breed-away] ok everyone be patient, we just waiting for the guys to
rejing :)
sNAK3^RP i wonder how many ppl are not using there normal nicks???
[breed-away] Ok
Charig Hi Everyone
[breed-away] I Would like to welcome Francis Charig and Fleecy Moss to the
room
[breed-away] plus other members of Tao group watching :)
sNAK3^RP welcome to amigagames
[breed-away] and its nice to see Cooksey wont be joining us hehe
[breed-away] Are you ready to get started Francis?
DD--i_c_u :D
situation Here we go...
Charig breed-away:re Cooksey - seconded
Jagge ja
Senex 1) One thing "Amiga Aurora" (my suggestion for the new OS's
name) MUST have: Screens - so how about Screens, Datatypes,
FFS-support? 2) Why not calling the product family just
"Amiga", i.e. "Amiga Aurora", "Amiga XYZ", etc.? GA
Charig We will be working with Amiga, taking a close look at the
existing features and making sure that the new system will
have the same or greater functionality.
Charig GA
Netsplit^ when can we expect to be reaching for our checkbooks, to buy
something new from u guys & when might it be. GA
Charig Bill's in the room and Fleecy can't talk! :) Announcements on
this will come when the product is ready to ship. No more hype!
Charig GA
Urizen Will you support hardware-accelerated OpenGL? GA
Charig intent(TM) supports hardware accelerated 2D and 3D graphics.
As for the 3D APIs that sit on top, we encourage all 3D APIs to
be ported across. Have you heard of Renderware? :)
Charig GA
tOmAsH-BB What is the real cooperation level of TAO and Motorola? I mean,
does Motorola want to use your (Amiga?) software, and vice
versa?
tOmAsH-BB GA
Charig It is publicly known that Motorola is releasing connected
appliances utilising Tao's software (e.g. Timeport P1088 smart
phone, see announcement 8.1.00)
Charig GA
dreamstar Q: will Elate be used as the next generation OS of future
Amigas? GA
Charig Specifics on this will announced shortly. :)
Charig GA
Firebird^ Hello Mr. Charig, my feeling about Gateway 2000's
(Old Amiga Inc.) plans for using Linux as the OS of the
new machines is that it would be a mistake. It wouldn't
be an Amiga, just a Linux box with the Amiga name slapped on
it. I hope this isn't going to be planned. ;)
Charig That was a statement!
Charig GA
Elektro fleecy: please describe the new amiga Computer(!) thnx :) GA
Charig "It's lovely and cuddly" says Fleecy
Charig GA
amiga-news_d Lost my text.
situation msg me when you find it
sNAK3^RP :ell there be a Os4.0 chipset...GA
JoeSchmo Howdy
Charig If you mean, "a new chipset for a new Amiga" then the answer
is that the new Amiga has been designed to be hardware
independent, hence Tao.
Charig This is why we are partnering together.
Charig Also I want to add a couple of other points.
sNAK3^RP :will we still have Os as such...GA
Charig The main objective today is to correspond about intent(TM)
rather than have extrapolations about the precise
configurations of the new Amiga.
Charig ga
TheB What is the Amiga "history" that TAO has? It doesn't seem very
comforting that you have to take a look at the Amiga to figure
out what it's about. (As for Firebird's statement.. that's
true of any new "Amiga".) And as for this 'hardware
independent' Amiga.. is that like java? :) GA
Charig Have you looked at our website to see what technology we offer?
Charig GA
amiga-news_d 1st question: TAO: It was reported you helped funding the
Amiga buyout. How much of it was "your idea", means, are
you tech supplier, partner, or even more? 2nd question:
Will VP Code and/or Amiga documentation be freely available
for the "just curious"? GA
fleecy We talked to Tao when looking for partners and got so horny
about each other that Tao dropped us some VC names and made
introductions and recommendations about Amiga.
[breed-away] Gaij!!!!
Guest45753 Tao is our foundation supplier. Amiga will be providing all
the support. Anyone who signs up to develop will have access
to full APIs.
Guest45753 GA
Swarfega Apple's new OS X has a lot of it's GUI done with vectors,
which allows easy scaling, rotating, etc. of pretty much
anything on the screen. Will that sort of thing be possible
with new Amigas (or is the OS extensible enough to allow
people to write their own interfaces)? GA
JoeSchmo fleecy's nick got switched..... fix needed.
charig We are not intending to have matrix style transformations
embedded in the lowest layers of the graphics subsystem as
this inherently slows down all other graphics functions.
charig Such vector type operations are available higher up.
charig ...where they should be.
charig Remember... elegance through simplicity and performance.
charig GA
dark4ces would there be any performance benefit to writing code in VP
assembler rather than higher-level languages? GA
NeRP^cF $#%@#$% server :)
charig There will be the same benefit that writing an assembler over
high level languages offers in any other environment.
charig You trade off slightly higher development effort in order to
gain tighter, faster code.
charig Remember that writing in VP gives you the advantages of
assembler but no portability drawback.
charig GA
sNAK3^RP monolog::rendering will be faster:))))
AmigaDragon (1) Will the new system (HDW or SW) have equivalent
(or higher) filesystem support such as CrossDOS/CrossMAC
including Windows longfilenames? (2) Fleecy, will we see,
sometime in the not too distant future, AmigaOS (classic)
Open source? GA
fleecy Me and 4 of the dev team have been VP for 2 days now and it's
nothing like traditional assembler, more like C with the
crap bits taken out. You'll find out soon.
Guest78547 Answer to AmigaDragon - Q1 - You can mimic multiple file
systems + they also have their own high performance native
file system.
Guest78547 Amigadragon (2) - our lawyers are looking into it but it is a
much more complicated web than anybody could guess.
Guest78547 GA
TheRiley if someone wanted to build an "Amiga"-desktop based on, say,
the POP-standard, and use your new OS , would you support it
(and if, how)? could the new OS run on phase5 Amirage for
example? (ok, that's 2 questions, but they overlap so much
that they are basically one :))
charig 1. Yes. 2. Bill was talking to Gerald Carda yesterday. :)
charig GA
HaXoR^ Mr Charig / Fleecy, is it just a coincidence this conference
happening immediately before the transmeta cpu lauch(5pmGMT)?
GA
charig Yes. We are hardware independent.
charig GA
Cpt_Hbl^ How long has Amino/Amiga and Tao been co-operating ? We know
all about Fleecy/Bill/Petro but how does Toa feel about Amiga
community? GA
[breed-away] Yup, it was supposed to happen yesterday.....
charig We have a large amount of respect for the Amiga community
which is why we have been working cooperatively with Bill
and Fleecy for some months, determined to make this really
happen.
charig GA
BJS The Time of Homecomputers of the 80's r over, i mean, what
does a CHRP board with an strange OS with Amiga in common,
other than the name, it's just marketing. and the things done
from 1994 till now r only done for the existing userbase and
they shrunk, how will u encourage others to buy amiga?
charig By providing the best platform.
charig GA
Thy Do you plan to do advertising ? Considering that it should be
worldwide, can you afford that ? To have the best machine is
not enough if nobody knows that. GA
charig Yes. We will be doing advertising (Tao and Amiga) with our
partners.
charig GA
Senex How many developers are working currently on "Amiga Aurora"
(i.e. the new OS <g>), and how many of them are from Amiga,
how many from Tao? GA
charig Amiga has a dozen engineers growing, Tao has 60 + plenty of
blue chip partners.
charig GA
RUiNa Q: Please take this all as one general question about
marketing. With consoles and settop boxes allowing more
ability and connectivity, and with super low pc prices,
do you feel we'll compete with these pricewise or are you
moving towards some other newer market? we all know marketing
was the original amiga downfall. is the marketing planned and
being taken care of by pro's? GA
charig Yes. We like to call them "hookers".
charig PS Where's Cooksey?
charig GA
FryG_away Q:will there be any new updates for WB3.5 ? GA
situation cooksey doesn't come on this channel any more ;)
GuardianBOB he's sitting in #Amiga-3D. heh heh heh
fleecy We have a transitional plan for the Classic that we will
announce with our partners.
fleecy GA
Nico_Barbat_ Francis, Bill told on the press-conf. that you are an long-time
Amiga-fan - in which effect could this be useful for the
*developer* group? WHO is actually working on the new OS? GA
NeRP^cF fleecy: I'm talking to him right now. My morning annoy-c0cksey
routine.
situation hey, there's nothing wrong with Cooksey, he's just a
misunderstood bloke
charig I'll take those in reverse order.
charig We already have the foundation layer. I'm not going to discuss
o/s specifics today. The entire Tao engineering staff is
working on software which will be utilised by the Amiga
community.
charig Remember that it is not just that we are fans, we also have
major Amiga engineering history at Tao.
sNAK3^RP :n what year will we see the Adverts or price lists.amiga has
NEVER died..GA
SM0ocHiE ping plz
charig This year.
sNAK3^RP :)
|MB| Hello. I am a convinced amigaist, but in what this new
repurchase is it different from the precedents? How long will
last your new development? GA
charig What?
charig GA
Szczepan-Bla Does new Amiga (or what is named) will have full support for
"Classic" Amiga apps running just like normal one ? I mean
that I can use any current program to edit/view/etc. any file
from disk (not like it is in UAE). GA
[breed-away] Just like to say that We will be winding down the live chat
soon..
[breed-away] so please make these your last questions...
charig Announcement soon.
charig GA
ioni Will there be PCI, AGP, USB, etc. ports in the 'new Amiga' ?
And support for them ? ga
charig We will support all significant hardware standards.
charig GA
Reticuli Guest45753 stated earlier (whoever that was and is now :-) ):
"anyone who signs up to develop will have access to full
APIs"... The API's WON'T be public domain? Is this wise? The
Amiga excelled because of the back bedroom developers who
just decided to have a quick dabble one night and has survived
years in the wilderness because anyone could program it
without having to become a formal developer. Or did I
misinterpret that answer? GA
[breed-away] Can we make these the last questions pls....
charig You are assuming that the development kit is going to be
expensive... it won't be.
charig GA
CraiK Q: I have got several commodore amiga computers including
amiga 500, 1200, and CD-32, along with commodore 64. All
i want to know is, what do you expect the future of the AMIGA
world will be like (in general)? bright or dark? I just want
you to make me feel comfortable about the AMIGA's future. I
come from the middle east, btw just to let you know that we
also DO care about the MIGGY ;) and thank you very much for
your time, sirs. GA
^PaulaCIA^ CraiK Commodore are dead, Amiga is owned by Gateway 2000 for
more info go to www.amiga.de !
[breed-away] eck, must update Paula!!!
[breed-away] heh
situation oops, I think your bot needs updating, breed
«Action» [breed-away] slaps Gateway 2000 about a bit
Erchin lol
DanDude2 hehehe
GuardianBOB heh heh yes you should.
JoeSchmo MUHAHAHAHA
Gaijin^ lol.. yeah :P
situation These next coupla questions will be the last, sorry to all
those who didn't get a chance to ask their questions
charig Of course it is going to be bright. Tao's heavily in demand
with so many global consumer electronics companies.
[breed-away] eeek
[breed-away] netsplit!
DanDude2 yikes!
jws72512a Will new Amiga/Tao OS System run on IBM PC box? GA
charig We regard the Amiga as a fundamental part, not just of our
strategy but the whole future of digital content.
charig One more question.
charig GA
[breed-away] and what a last question it is ;)
situation Okay, I've not asked a question yet, so here goes... How
confident are you at taking on the industry giants, Microsoft,
Intel, et al... and winning?
situation GA
situation hat was the last question
Erchin hehe
sNAK3^RP well guys thx for <maybe> given us some hope...we look
forward to new things......
charig Tao is already becoming very successful and we know that the
co-operation will accelerate our success, Amiga's and the
community.
charig Thank you and Goodnight from Reading England :)
charig GA
situation Thanks very much for giving us your time
situation round of applause, please
DanDude2 yay! :)
[breed-away] I wish to thank Francis Charig, Fleecy Moss, Bill M and the
other guys from Tao for turning out..
Erchin many many thanks to everyone
Gaijin^ thanks :)
GuardianBOB nite, Charig. :-)
[breed-away] im sorry to those who didnt get there questions answered
sNAK3^RP es many thx
GuardianBOB anytime. we luv hearing real info about amiga and it's future.
situation Thanks everyone for being so patient... we ran this whole
system by hand, 'cause we didn't have time to set up proper
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