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|miggyfree| a cool feature we are building in is the ability for the web page designer to define
their own little activity button
|miggyfree| transfer button
|miggyfree| Tipsy: aMozillaX will come in 030, 040, 060 flavours
|miggyfree| there will also be limited ppc support
|miggyfree| IRC client will be similar to the one seen in MissingU.com
|miggyfree| any other features you would like to see? or any questions?
|duroc| miggyfree: support for axxs to newgroups like voyager would be good fer me :)
|Tipsy| So what features will aMozillaX actually have that neither Voyager or IBrowse have ?
|miggyfree| Tipsy: oh, there are lots
|miggyfree| I will come equipped with a proper, feature list tommorow
|miggyfree| All i can say is that we believe aMozillaX will be truly innovative
|miggyfree| and will be the best browser on any platform
|miggyfree| and we mean that
|miggyfree| there may be people who dont believe it, but I am genuinly excited about this, and I intend
to release a full version at WOA bundled with OS3.5
|miggyfree| Having spoken further to Bill McEwan i believe this dream can happen
|amirules| miggy : will the ppl on the amoz team get free os 3.5 ? =)
|miggyfree| amirules: the developers might.... but not you
|miggyfree| :)
|miggyfree| im getting a copy anyway
|miggyfree| Bill McEwan has promised me
|DrFloppy| I would like to know if there are plugins for RealAudi and RealVideo
|miggyfree| DrFloppy: aMozillaX will ship with Real Audio but not Real Video support. Unlike the other
browsers, this will be internal and support streaming real audio.
|DonJuan| Whats about Java?
|miggyfree| Yes it will have Java although we are as yet unsure as to what package, if any we will use
|BOB| a few questions; are the image decoders being done in c (ported) or in asm (from scratch),
second aren't you worried that by releasing a free web browser, it could damage the already
unstable commerical market (ibrowese, voyager etc)?
|miggyfree| The Image libraries are being written from scratch for speed
|miggyfree| The Amiga market, in my opinion cant support three commercial browsers anyway, and we must
respect that it is a free market
|d2| what ca u tell us about ppc suport & hardware requirements
|miggyfree| d2: The initial version will have ppc optimised image libraries. The second version,
due August, will be available in PPC Native
|miggyfree| aMozillaX will require an 030/8mb minimum
|miggyfree| 040/40 16mb recommended
|miggyfree| d2: there will be a release in the next two-three weeks
|miggyfree| d2: it will be available on Aminet
|DonJuan| will there be problems with OS3.5?
|DonJuan| will there be an IRC-client?
|miggyfree| DonJuan: no, in fact we are considering creating a version of aMozillaX which uses
the Reaction system
|miggyfree| DonJuan: yes, there will be a Java irc client.
|DrFloppy| Is there VRML, ActiveX, Shockwave support? What file formats are supported internaly
and which are supported via datatypes? aMozilla will not go commercial? What kind
of INTERFACE it have (MUI?)?
|miggyfree| There will be VRML and Shockwave
|miggyfree| ActiveX is a windows propriatery format
|miggyfree| Internally, there will be PNG, GIF, IFF, JPEG, XBM
|miggyfree| aMozillaX will always be free
|miggyfree| It has an MUI interface. a Reaction Interface may also be developed
|DrFloppy| Is there httpresume function included?
|miggyfree| DrFloppy: our download engine is the most intelligent and powerful engine on any platform
|marmoset| mozilla is slow, buggy, and lacking many features on it's most supported platform,
linux-x86. How can a much smaller team of developers hope to take the mess of source
and make something more useful than the current amiga browsers? GA
|miggyfree| marmoset: because aMozillaX is no longer a straight port of Mozilla. It is mainly GECKO,
a lot of the code is platform independant. The initial versions I have are very fast
indeed, and the feature list is impressive.
|d2| wha about speed of html browswr? will it recognize html v 4.0?
|miggyfree| d2: the html engine will support HTML4.0, including CSS1 and partial CSS2
|miggyfree| XML, DOM
|miggyfree| EcmaScript
|DrFloppy| A function like "GetAllHTML" would be welcome.
|DrFloppy| while you read one page the others should download as well
|DrFloppy| and what abour SSL
|miggyfree| DrFloppy: there is a feature that is similar to that. You can pre-select which links
you will be viewing, and when you are viewing the first one, the others will be download
|miggyfree| DrFloppy: there will be SSL
|DonJuan| whats about MPEG and AREXX-Support?
|miggyfree| DonJuan: there will be internal MPEG video and audio support.
|miggyfree| DonJuan: we also have a very powerful Arexx plugin interface, in addition to the
propriatery plugin interface
|miggyfree| I have a full feature list here if anyone wants to put it on a webpage (i wont dcc
it to everyone!)
|miggyfree| my webpage server isnt responding
|d2| will java be internal package or external?
|miggyfree| d2: Java will be external.
|d2| who will write this?
|miggyfree| d2: we are currently evaluating the choices
|miggyfree| d2: we may do our own, or we may use "another" JVM
|DrFloppy| is there support for background music like midi or mod. format? when can we get
beta version?
|miggyfree| DrFloppy: yes, these will be supported
|miggyfree| it will be made available on a webpage RSN
|miggyfree| Beta Version in 2-3 weeks
|miggyfree| we have been slightly delayed due to new features we are adding....
|miggyfree| but I promise a beta in the first half of May
|\Abraham| How do you plan to interagate e-mail support? Will it be using it's own internal client
or will it use a seperate sw (like yam)? Why did MBeck not want to support this idea?
|miggyfree| It will be using Netscape Grendel Java Mail Client
|miggyfree| Marcel Beck didnt want to work with us
|\Abraham| Is that used in NS aswell?
|miggyfree| Abe: no, but it will be in the next version
|pizza| whats about working together with holger kruse on the java thing ?
|miggyfree| pizza: we are evaluating the Java situation. There are 4 alternatives to us.
Daytona is one of them.
|Wizzard_o| will it work on my 060 or will error 800000 000004 prevail ?
|miggyfree| Wizzard_o: there will be 030, 040, 060 binaries
|miggyfree| the source code will also be available should you wish to compile it yourself
|d2| what about newsreader support? i want the feature list too:) when we see more
screenshots on your page? what about MIME coding of national charsets?
|miggyfree| d2: no newsreader. Use Newsrog it rocks. There will be some more screenshots
in the ext couple of days.
|DonJuan| Is there any official support by netscape (personal/money/equipment). Do they know
anything about Amiga?
|miggyfree| DonJuan: Mozilla.org have offered to give us a section on the CVS server. There will
be some more news on how we will be supported soon.
|DonJuan| And what about AOL. Do you use only the Instant Messanger without using AOL service?
|miggyfree| DonJuan: yes, instant messenger isnt AOL only
|DrFloppy| Will there be any program in style of web server in the future?
|DrFloppy| with editor like front page
|miggyfree| aMozillaX will have an extremely intuitive web server built into it (optional)
|miggyfree| the second version of aMozillaX will have a Editor program
|DrFloppy| optional?
|DrFloppy| what do you mean by that?
|miggyfree| DrFloppy: yes it will be optional
|DrFloppy| as a plugin?
|miggyfree| It means you dont have to run the web server part, if you have security concerns
|\Abraham| How do you intend to support the NG Amiga? Will it have an arexx port? A suggestion:
How about having a unique feature of being able to customise what each gadget looks
like from a list of styles? A question: Does it suport GFX cards? Can u use wcams?
Is there support for java plugins? Will there be support for protoc
|\Abraham| ols such as usenet? Will it support http 1.1 requests (iirc there is a v1.1)? Will
it have all the browser specific features from netscape?
|miggyfree| mmmmn, lots there :)
|\Abraham| why ?
|miggyfree| NGAmiga: we will evaluate the situation nearer the time.
|miggyfree| Arexx Port: yes
|miggyfree| Gadgets... when the v2.0 is released with the GTK engine you will be able to use themes
|miggyfree| GFX cards - Yes
|miggyfree| WebCams: yes
|miggyfree| Java Plugins: yes
|miggyfree| http1.1 - yes
|miggyfree| Last Question: yes
|someone| Which compiler is used for aMozillaX, and do you intend to release any source code before
the final version is released? GA
|miggyfree| someone: StormC, which H+P kindly donated.
|miggyfree| someone: the source code will be released when Beta1 is released.
|miggyfree| We go fully open source then...
|d2| no news support not realy email supp built in why? on old screnshots there will email
window. netscape is all in one - amozilla only www browser:((
|miggyfree| d2: there will be Mail, Netscape Grendel...
|miggyfree| we orgininally planned our own mail program
|miggyfree| but now we will use the Java mail program for Mozilla, Grendel, with SMTP, POP3 and
IMAP support
|d2| what about national charset coding
|d2| eg: polish, czech charset
|miggyfree| d2: yes, only Hebrew and Arabic wont really be useable
|d2| cyrylic'a?
|miggyfree| d2: yes,
|pizza| in which form will the sourcecode be provided ? GA
|miggyfree| pizza: the source will be available via FTP and there will be a CVS server established
to create atrue multi-developer environment
|someone| Most people doesn't seem to understand that Mozilla and Netscape is _not_ the same.
Maybe you should try to make this clearer :)
|someone| and maybe explain what differences there are ;)
|Tipsy| miggyfree: explain the differences pls
|miggyfree| Mozilla is designed to create Netscape 5.0
|miggyfree| it will be radically different from previous incarnations of Netscape
|miggyfree| it uses new layout engines etc
|miggyfree| Mozilla will become Netscape 5.0
|DonJuan| How many people are currently working for this project? How will be financed further
versions? GA?
|miggyfree| DonJuan: there are 8 developers in aMozillaX. Around 15 for Free Amiga project.
|miggyfree| All our coders are working for free.
*Tipsy points to the beta testers as well ;)
|\Abraham| Is it ok with netscape to do this? Will there be a significant speed increase for
optimised versions? - I had this problem with Ibrowse where in foms there was
a string gadget with next in it, but in all other browsers it showed up as a button
(like it was meant to). Will amozzilla have annoying bugs like this? I'm not familiar
with the mozzilla cocept, is it netscape or what? Is it a name earned by ports of
netscape??? A doubtful bit of speculation or a possible suggestion if not: Will there
|miggyfree| Abe: yes. Optimised version will be quicker. An 060 should rock the house. We will
try to eradicate all bugs
|miggyfree| Mozilla is the project to design and write Netscape 5.0
|miggyfree| a lot of the code is new.
|\Abraham| be support for a webserver? Could there be support 4 a webserver or a seperate program,
as there is with microsurfs IE?
|miggyfree| aMozillaX will have an internal web server.
|\Abraham| How easy is it 2 use?
|\Abraham| Will it be like apache?
|miggyfree| Abe: it will be very intuitive to use. It will be a matter of selecting home directory
and the index file
|miggyfree| The program does the rest
|d2| do u bring netscape 5 to amiga? what can u tell us about other free amiga project?
|d2| and just morewords about java port
|miggyfree| d2: aMozillaX will be as good as Netscape 5.0 - it wont be officially N5
|miggyfree| The Java port will use intuition alike AWT
|d2| what's AWT?
|miggyfree| Free Amiga project is also doing aGTK, aSANE, aGIMP
|miggyfree| Free Amiga project is also about to begin planning a new operating system
|miggyfree| more details will be released soon
|Tipsy| correction: bloody good OS ;)
|miggyfree| AWT is the stuff that draws the windows etc
|DonJuan| Can I use old aweb ibrowse voyager hotlists? GA
|miggyfree| DonJuan: yes. Our bookmarks program is really very impressive. You will be able to use it
standalone, a la contact manager
|miggyfree| Paul: you can use CM but our bookmarks program will be better.
|DonJuan| Can you tell some words about aGTK, aSANE, aGIMP. I don´t know these short cuts
|miggyfree| aGTK is a port of GTK, kinda Linuxs equivelant to MUI. aSANE is a scanner driver system
that supports TWAIN
|miggyfree| aGIMP is like Photoshop. But free.
|someone| Are you afraid that someone else may use your source code to make their own browser? ;)
|miggyfree| someone: no
|someone| or use parts of it in a commercial browser
|miggyfree| someone: if they do that and dont release the code then they will be sued by Netscape
|miggyfree| we will be working with the developers of two other web browsers to integrate some
of our code
|\Abraham| How about a built in IRC, and telnet client and a built in archiver? How about a mailing
list manager like the one for THor?
|miggyfree| we will also be working on a Neo Planet style generic GUI system which makes use of other
browsers layout engines
|miggyfree| Abe: there will be built in IRC, and we are _considering_ doing a WinZIP style program.
|miggyfree| Mailing List manager isnt really for a browser.
|miggyfree| Ok, 3 more questions, then I will leave
|miggyfree| We can do more of these conferences if you would like
|\Abraham| How about support for Amitcp and miami and other tcp/ip? Or a built in one? One that will
leave an icon on your WB saying `internet' and clicking on it will ask if u would like to
connect b4 running amozzilla.
|\Abraham| Like Windoze and NS
|miggyfree| Abe: all TCP stacks will be supported. And yes, we are doing a feature like that
|someone| Won't having lots of features like irc, archiver, etc only make it bigger and slower, and
do we really need them.. (we already have amirc,etc)
|miggyfree| someone: everything will be optional
|ToDi| sorry, if it was asked before ... when is the release? and when will we see the first
public-beta?
|miggyfree| we will see a public beta within 2-3 weeks
|miggyfree| the product will be released at the WOA show
|d2| is log from this conference copyrighted? can it be used/spreaded in any form?
|Tipsy| d2: copyright = non-existant
|d2| reprinted in Paper magazine?
|Tipsy| d2: spread it far & wide
|miggyfree| d2: there are no objctions from me
|miggyfree| thanks for your time
|miggyfree| I appreciate it
|miggyfree| no probs
|miggyfree| I doubt I can make it tommorow
|miggyfree| if you want another conference, give us a bell :)
|miggyfree| Seeya later everyone. Another conference soon!
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Thanks goes to Philip Edwards, Paul Bowley and aMozillaX team.