Re: ICOA - Spatne zpravy??? :-(((

[Pavel Strejcek <glum@vszbr.cz>]

jestli se to nejak vycasi tak nas pliiz informuj !!!!!



On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Petr Krenzelok wrote:

> Bohuzel zde musim vstrcit jeden rozhorceny e-mail od Fleecyho, protoze
> ten se dozral a napsal primo Tedd Waittovi. Odpoved mel pry do hodiny,
> ale musel slibit, ze nic nerekne.
> Tedka se na ICOA ani moc nejedna o nejakem dalsim vyvoji platformy, ale
> o tom, jestli se Amiga stala dalsi rybou ucetnich machinaci jedne velke
> PC spolecnosti, nebo ne.
> Pry jeste GW2K nejak nepochopila, ze Amiga neni PC, ze je to uplne
> oddeleny trh a je treba rychle s necim hnout, tady to mate. Minule utery
> mel totiz Jeff Schindler navstivit osobne s plany Ted Waitta, ale
> vysledek se zda byt opet nulovy, coz zrejme Fleecyho dozralo.
> 
> Baj,
> 
> Pekr
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Thomas Svenson wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > For me the honey moon for them is over, and it is time for us to start asking
> > them for hard facts, or at least good explanations on why it takes so long
> > time. I can't see that it should be any problems for them to find the right
> > guys to start making things happen. Even if the do work the near future is not
> > usefull when a managers finaly are hired, it would not be totaly usefull. I
> > can imagine lots of things that can be done as preparations until the staff is
> > settled.
> > 
> 
> What has happened is what typically happens in the US - For GW2K, AInc
> is just
> one small fish that they have on their plate. As they get to the end of
> the 
> year, all the fish in the pool start politicking for the up and coming
> budget
> approvals, particularly for the limited R&D pot of money. 
> 
> GW2K has at least 15 Vice Presidents, all of whom are after as much as
> they 
> can get. Jeff is not a VP - he is having to convince the VP who sits
> above him
> (Joe Burke) who a) is a marketing guy and b) is in charge of their
> country
> stores project which is seen as being a major project.
> 
> Jeff is doing what he can but this is corporate politics and, as we have
> all
> seen with MS, having a good idea and great technology rarely seems to be
> heard
> when the capital feeding frenzy starts.
> 
> ... and this is unnacceptable......
> 
> 
> Which is why last tuesday the TSC decided to kick some suit ass!!!! 
> 
> A "friend" inside AInc gave us Ted Waitt's private email address. An
> email was
> composed and sent...within 4 hours Ted replied. We are not allowed to
> reveal its
> contents BUT its tone and what was said make it obvious that it is on
> his personal
> plate and as soon as he gets time, he will look at it. We stressed the
> importance 
> of time, the fragile state of the market and the fact that the Amiga is
> not a customer
> base but a community. He is intrigued by the ICOA and what it can do and
> we talked
> quite a bit about new business models. I know this doesn't put new
> product out there
> BUT it has raised its profile in his eyes and in corporate politics,
> that is how things 
> get done.
> 
> The TSC met a lot of the VPs up in GW2K when we were up there. A lot of
> them are smart
> ppl brought in for high wages to pretty uninspiring but necessary jobs.
> We formed a 
> great rapport with them. The day after the Ted Waitt email, we faxed as
> many of them
> as we could with a status and alert letter. We received 3 replies within
> an hour,
> and this was around thanksgiving so more are expected. There will be
> phone calls on
> Monday to follow these up. We have sent a few photon torpedos into the
> high decks of
> the starship Moo-terprise and the talk in the executive bathrooms this
> week should
> be interesting.
> 
> We also intend to follow in there with tales from the community, of the
> hardship being
> suffered by those who have stood by the Amiga in the commercial arena.
> In particular, the
> newsletter from Bob Luneski of Oregon Research that almost had me in
> tears (and if anyone
> can, please contact him to see if there is anything ppl can do to help
> him - we have to
> stand together in this time of crap or we will all go down!!!)
> 
> As far as GW2K are concerned, at the moment, we are a product division,
> a small cog
> in their vast machine. We are going to make them change that impression
> pretty dammed
> quick. In the past we tried to support AInc and Jeff - that was not
> enough. Now we 
> intend to do what we should have done all along - support the Amiga. If
> we are going
> down then we are going to make enough bloody noise to have them spread
> across the 
> global news net. If they want to save us, and we save them then the time
> has come
> to act.
> 
> .stay tuned.....
> 
> fleeChe Guevera (on behalf of the TSC)
>